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CLOC España Spotlight: Growing a Movement Through Leadership & Connection

This episode of CLOC Talk features an energizing conversation with Maria Pedrosa and Gabriel Silva, who join CLOC Talk host Jeremiah Kincannon to share their journey in building the CLOC España community and the importance of staying connected, curious, and collaborative in legal operations. 

They give us a preview of what’s ahead for the chapter—including next year’s event—and discuss how regional leadership can shape global impact. 

Follow Maria, Gabriel, and the CLOC España chapter for updates, and keep tuning in as we continue exploring innovation across the legal ops ecosystem.

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Moving Upstream: Redefining Legal Operations with Curtis Brewer of Litify

In this episode of CLOC Talk, hosts Janessa Nelson and Nataly Kozanian sit down with Curtis Brewer, CEO of Litify, to explore how legal departments can transform their approach to spend and matter management. Curtis breaks down what it means to “move upstream from the invoice,” why it’s critical for modern legal ops, and how data, analytics, and AI are reshaping the future of the legal industry.

From smarter budgeting to seamless collaboration, discover practical ways to make your legal department more strategic, proactive, and impact-driven.

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Building Community in the Workplace

In this episode of CLOC Talk, hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Tanya Svoboda sit down with leadership and DEIB expert Reggie Butler for a thought-provoking conversation about belonging, connection, and humanity at work.

The discussion explores:

  • The role of curiosity and empathy in leadership
  • How to foster a sense of belonging across teams and organizations
  • The difference between scarcity and abundance mindsets
  • The evolving importance of “power skills” (formerly “soft skills”) in the hybrid and AI-enabled workplace
  • Practical strategies for leaders and employees to build inclusive, human-centered communities at work

Reggie challenges listeners to lead with intention, expand their “go-to” networks, and “pay attention now” to the human connections that drive real performance and fulfillment.

Following the release of this episode, we learned that Reggie Butler had passed away. Reggie joined us at the CLOC Global Institute for a session on how belonging shapes performance, and he recently led a webinar on psychological safety and how we show up for one another at work. We are grateful we had the chance to learn from him. His passing is a real loss for our community and everyone who knew him. That loss is felt most by his family and friends, and our thoughts are with them.

Unlocking the Future of Legal Operations: CLOC Expands Board for Next-Level Impact

Today marks an important milestone for CLOC and for the global legal operations profession. I’m proud to share that we have selected our 2026 Board of Directors, reflecting a thoughtful evolution of our leadership and how we represent the community we serve.

Scaling Our Leadership for Global Impact
For the first time, the CLOC Board will include 16 members. This change reflects the steady growth and maturity of our community and ensures our leadership reflects the full scope of a global profession.

Our new board brings together an extraordinary group of:

    • Legal operations leaders
    • In-house counsel
    • Technology innovators

Progress happens when we work together. This expansion strengthens the collaboration that defines CLOC and deepens the shared expertise that drives our mission forward.

Refining Our Governance for the Future
To support this expanded vision, we have updated our governance structure to align with best practices for member-driven associations.

Beginning January 1, the role leading our executive team will be President & CEO, with Oyango Snell continuing his leadership in that capacity. This update builds a closer partnership between the board and the executive team, connecting strategy with action and positioning CLOC for long-term success.

At its first meeting in 2026, the board will also elect its first Chair and Chair-Elect. Every director on this expanded board serves in a voluntary capacity, offering their time and expertise to advance the profession we all care about.

The Strength of Our Community
Our newest directors join a group of dedicated returning leaders who continue to push the profession forward. From global enterprises to innovative technology providers, this board reflects what makes CLOC unique: diversity, innovation, and a shared purpose.

A sincere thank you to our Nominating Committee, led by board members Adam Becker and Laura Dieudonné, and to every member who took part in the open nominations process. Your involvement ensures our leadership reflects the many voices and experiences that make up the CLOC community.

Congratulations to our incoming board members. Your leadership is an inspiration, and I look forward to all we will achieve together as we enter this next chapter for CLOC.

    • Mark Allen, Director of Legal & Compliance Operations, Zillow
    • Donovan Bell, Senior Director, Head of Global Operations, Corporate Affairs, Policy, Integrity, Trade and Legal, Intel
    • Alex Gao, Senior Director, Legal Operations, Hilton Worldwide Corporation
    • Kurt Grasinger, Legal Operations and Outside Counsel Manager, Meta
    • Jerry Levine, Chief Evangelist and General Counsel, ContractPodAI
    • Colin Levy, General Counsel, Malbek
    • Stacy Lettie, Chief of Staff to the General Counsel, Organon
    • Carl Morrison, Senior Manager, Legal Operations, Otsuka America Pharmaceutical Inc.
    • Richard Robinson, Director of Client Success, Epiq
    • Kirsten Taitelbaum, Vice President, Head of Legal Operations and Chief of Staff, Sutter Health
    • Darth Vaughn, Associate General Counsel and Managing Director, Policy and Legal Operations, Ford Motor Company

Meet CLOC’s new and continuing directors at cloc.org/about.

CLOC Solution Lab: Surgical Redlines, Strategic Decisions: Implementing AI-Assisted Contract Negotiations presented by Sirion

Contract negotiations are notoriously time-consuming and complex processes that have traditionally relied on rigid, rule-based CLM tools. Unlike human lawyers who can review clauses contextually and make nuanced decisions, conventional CLM platforms operate mechanically, comparing clauses without strategic insight. 

When a skilled lawyer reviews a contract, they don’t redline entire clauses; they surgically edit only the specific parts that create risk or violate company policy. What if your CLM platform could negotiate like your best legal professional? 

This 45-minute Solution Lab introduces next-generation AI-powered platforms that decompose contracts into individual issues and take a granular, atomic approach to negotiations. These systems identify risks, recommend surgical redlines, and transform the lawyer’s role from tedious markup to strategic decision-making – letting legal teams set guardrails while AI takes the first pass. 

In this Solution Lab, you’ll discover: 

  • Why issue-based AI negotiation outperforms traditional clause comparison 
  • How to configure AI playbooks, risk parameters, and negotiation guardrails 
  • Best practices for human-AI collaboration in contract negotiations 
  • Live demonstration of AI that redlines like experienced lawyers 
  • Implementation roadmap for next-generation contract negotiations 

This isn’t a future vision—these capabilities exist today. See them in action and learn how to implement AI-powered negotiations that work the way lawyers think. 

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The Mind of the GC: Navigating Metrics, Trust & AI

In this episode, Irene Liu, former General Counsel turned Hypergrowth GC coach, joins the conversation to share her career journey from the DOJ and FTC to leadership roles at Blackberry, Lookout, Checker, and Hopin. Along the way, she took on finance responsibilities, giving her a unique perspective on how legal teams can demonstrate their value beyond traditional expectations.

The discussion covers how legal operations can showcase impact through metrics, why trust and proactivity are key for success, and how General Counsels can align legal strategy with business goals. Irene also explores the evolving landscape of legal tools and AI, offering insights on how legal teams can stay ahead in a rapidly changing industry.

Tune in for an engaging conversation on how legal ops professionals can position themselves as strategic drivers of business success. 

Thank you to our 2025 CLOC Global Institute CLOC Talk sponsor, DeepL.

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Live from the CGI Stage: The Powerhouse Perspectives Panel Discussion

In this special episode of CLOC Talk, we take you to the 2025 CGI mainstage with the recording of our Powerhouse Perspectives panel discussion. In this thought-provoking discussion, moderator Áine Lyons dives into the challenges and opportunities that AI presents for legal, with panelists Karen Gally, Eric Dodson Greenberg, and Casey Flaherty. They explore key insights from McKinsey and Deloitte reports, discuss why legal departments must lead AI adoption proactively, and share strategies for integrating AI into daily workflows. 

From the power of storytelling and data analysis to the importance of curiosity and cross-functional collaboration, this conversation offers a roadmap for legal professionals looking to become AI experts within their organizations. Tune in for practical advice, strategic insights, and a forward-thinking perspective on evolving with technology. 

Thank you to our 2025 CLOC Global Institute CLOC Talk sponsor, DeepL.

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Reimagining Legal: AI, Innovation, & the New Playbook

Legal services are evolving fast, and AI is playing a major role in reshaping how teams work.

In this episode, Mark Ross, Kami Paulsen, and Rich Levine join host, Jeremiah Kincannon, to break down the shifting landscape from the rise of multidisciplinary expertise to the practical impact of AI on workflows, compliance, and hiring. The discussion covers what legal teams need to do to stay competitive, including adopting new tools, rethinking traditional practices, and preparing for the future. They discuss what legal teams need to do to stay competitive, including adopting new tools, rethinking traditional practices, and preparing for the future.

Tune in for a deep dive into the forces driving change and how legal professionals can adapt.

Thank you to our 2025 CLOC Global Institute CLOC Talk sponsor, DeepL.

What Are the Risks of Contract AI?

Navigating Bias, Displacement, and Accountability 

Key Takeaways: 

  • Contract AI, while efficient, carries significant risks. 
  • AI can perpetuate and amplify biases present in its training data. 
  • AI technology may lead to job displacement for legal professionals. 
  • Lack of clear accountability is a major concern when AI makes errors. 

 

The biggest risks of using Contract AI are bias, human displacement, and a lack of clear accountability. While this technology promises efficiency, it can also amplify existing inequalities if not implemented responsibly. AI models are not neutral; they learn from the data they are trained on, and if that data is biased, the resulting contracts will be too. This can lead to unfair or discriminatory outcomes. 

 

What is Bias in Contract AI and How Does it Happen? 

Bias in Contract AI occurs when the AI system learns and perpetuates unfair or discriminatory patterns from its training data. This happens because the historical contracts used to train the model may reflect human biases related to race, gender, or socioeconomic status. For example, an AI could be trained on a dataset where men were historically offered higher-value contracts, causing the AI to continue this trend. 

The result is an automated system that automates discrimination, not just efficiency. This can lead to legal challenges and a complete breakdown of trust. It’s a problem that can only be solved by a commitment to fair and diverse data. 

 

How Can Human Displacement Be Managed? 

The displacement of human jobs is a major concern with the rise of Contract AI. Roles like paralegals, contract managers, and junior lawyers are at risk as AI automates their tasks. The key to managing this is not to stop progress but to pivot. 

Instead of seeing AI as a replacement, we should view it as a partner. Legal teams can be retrained to focus on higher-level tasks while AI automates tedious or repetitive tasks. This legal expertise includes interpreting complex legal situations, negotiating face-to-face, and providing strategic advice that AI cannot. Our experience has shown that AI is best as a tool to augment human expertise, not replace it. 

 

Why is Accountability a Challenge with Contract AI? 

Accountability is a challenge with Contract AI because it is often unclear who is responsible when the AI makes a mistake. Unlike a human lawyer, an AI system cannot be held liable for negligence. This creates a legal and ethical vacuum. 

Is the software developer responsible? Is it the company that implemented the AI? Or is it the data scientist who trained the model with flawed data? Without a clear legal framework, clients and stakeholders may have no recourse if an AI-generated contract contains a critical error. Establishing a clear chain of responsibility is crucial for building trust. 

                             

Call to Action: Learn more about responsible AI implementation and how you can ensure your organization is prepared to navigate these challenges. Book a free demo of CobbleStone’s award-winning AI-based contract management solution today!